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Cameron2



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PostSubject: WC Meeting . . . Did ANYONE see that coming???   Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:45 pm

So on Friday it was the first day of the Wildlife Commission meeting. Jack Robb, who sits on the Trapping Regulation committee, gave a report to the Commission and made a couple of interesting points -- to the shock and surprise of almost everyone.

First, he said that he intends to "re-visit the regulations on trapping in the rural areas of Nevada." Remember at the Elko committee meeting, the Trapping Committee voted to recommend that there be no new trapping visitation changes in the rural areas?? I guess that recommendation was made to pacify all the trappers/sportsmen/guides/ranchers/farmers/county commissioners that were there to argue against no new regulations . . .  and apparently knowing that when the Commission got to Vegas or Reno (on more friendly anti trapping turf), they would just change their minds anyway.

Second, he said that he intends to "enlarge the Washoe area map" which requires daily trap checks. Again, why have a meeting in Reno and vote to recommend a map, then turn around and tell everyone that you intend to change your mind at a future Commission meeting????

Finally, he said he intends to recommend a 12 point demerit system for trap violations. That means one violation and you are done trapping. It could also mean you are done hunting and fishing too. Where did that come from????

This is like running in sand . . . we seem to take one step forward, and then two backward. We marshal overwhelming support from all aspects of sportsmen, hunters, trappers, ranchers, livestock, government, etc. . . . and we get a pat on the back with a vote that the Committee agrees with us . . . only to have the Chair of the Commission say he's been having some off-the-record conversations with someone and will ignore everything presented and all prior votes, and stab us in the back anyway.

I'm just speechless. I can't even frame a response to that.
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PostSubject: Re: WC Meeting . . . Did ANYONE see that coming???   Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:02 pm

Hahahah. 30 views and no comment. Guess none of the rest of you could come up with a response either.
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PostSubject: Re: WC Meeting . . . Did ANYONE see that coming???   Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:28 pm

Not sure what to say.... At a loss of words?!?!?
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PostSubject: Re: WC Meeting . . . Did ANYONE see that coming???   Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:01 pm

Wow ... First response for me it to recommend that Jack Robb immediately have a Glass Bellybutton installed so he can find his way to the Lady's Room ..... just sayin

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PostSubject: Re: WC Meeting . . . Did ANYONE see that coming???   Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:07 pm

I am speechless as well. I guess we need to keep working on the other committee members, 4 beats 3 at any meeting. I have one personal contact on the commission that I will contact so see what is up with the change in Mr. Robb's tone. Maybe if it is one rogue member he may be displaced?
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PostSubject: Re: WC Meeting . . . Did ANYONE see that coming???   Mon Mar 24, 2014 9:17 pm

I guess it would be more accurate to say 5 beats 4. I left a message on one of the commissioners cell phone and will let you all know if I find out something. We all need to contact the governor, those positions are appointed by him and we need to get a more trapper friend group on the commission.
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PostSubject: Re: WC Meeting . . . Did ANYONE see that coming???   Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:34 pm

Well, as promised, here is the anti trappers' wish list. This is the agenda for the upcoming trapping committee meeting in Vegas. Notice how this thing has evolved since the first one in Elko?? Now we are going to consider non-target data (thank you, Dr. Molde), education, etc.

Guys and gals, this one is for all the marbles.

Here is the agenda for the upcoming trapping committe meeting to be held in Las Vegas:

Trapping Regulation Committee Members:
Chairman David McNinch
Commissioners: Jack Robb, Jeremy Drew, Karen Layne
Staff to the Committee: Rob Buonamici
(775) 688-1540 rbuonamici@ndow.org
Public member: John Sullivan
NEVADA BOARD OF WILDLIFE COMMISSIONERS
NEVADA DEPARTMENT OF WILDLIFE
TRAPPING REGULATION COMMITTEE MEETING
Clark County Government Center
Commission Chambers
500 S. Grand Central Parkway
Las Vegas, NV 89155
Saturday, April 5, 2014 @ 12:00 p.m.
FINAL AGENDA
NOTE: Items may be taken out of order; items may be combined for consideration by the public body; and Items may be pulled or removed from the agenda at any time. Individuals with a disability who are in need of special services should contact the Department at least 24 hours prior to the meeting at 775-688-1549. Individuals with hearing impairment may contact the Department via telecommunication device (TDD) (775) 688-1550.
TIME LIMITS: Public Comment will be taken on every action item after discussion but before action on each item, and are limited to (3) minutes per person. Persons may not allocate unused time to other speakers. Persons are invited to submit written comments on items or attend and make comment during the meeting and are asked complete a speaker card and present it to the Recording Secretary. To ensure the public has notice of all matters the Committee will consider, Committee members may choose not respond to public comments in order to avoid deliberation on topics not listed for action on the agenda.
FORUM RESTRICTIONS AND ORDERLY BUSINESS: The viewpoint of a speaker will not be restricted, but reasonable restrictions may be imposed upon the time, place and manner of speech. Irrelevant and unduly repetitious statements and personal attacks which antagonize or incite others are examples of public comment that may be reasonably limited.
NOTE: Public comment allowed on each action item and at the end of the meeting for items not on the agenda.
Saturday, April 5, 2014 @ 12:00 p.m.
1 Call to Order – Chairman McNinch
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2 Approval of Agenda – Chairman McNinch - For Possible Action
The Committee will review the agenda and may take action to approve the agenda. The Committee may remove items from the agenda, combine items for consideration or take items out of order.
3 Member Items/Announcements Chairman McNinch – Informational
Committee members may present emergent items. No action may be taken by the Committee. Any item requiring Committee action will be scheduled on a future Committee agenda.
4* Approval of Minutes – Chairman McNinch - For Possible Action
The Committee may take action to approve Committee minutes from the January 31, 2014 meeting.
5 Public Comment Period
Persons wishing to speak on items not on the agenda should complete a speaker’s card and present it to the recording secretary. Public comment will be limited to three minutes. No action can be taken by the Committee at this time; any item requiring Committee action may be scheduled on a future Committee agenda. In addition to this Public Comment Period, Public Comment limited to three minutes per speaker on each agenda action item, but not on reports or informational items.
6* Review of Non-Target Data Associated with Trapping – Chairman McNinch – For Possible Action
The Committee will review and discuss non-target data associated with trapping collected by the Department. The Committee may take action to provide direction to staff or establish findings or recommendations to present to the Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners relevant to non-target data associated with trapping.
7 Education Associated with Trapping Activities – Chairman McNinch – For Possible Action
The Committee will review and discuss current education efforts associated with trapping activities in Nevada. The Committee may take action to provide direction to staff or establish findings or recommendations to present to the Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners relevant to education associated with trapping activities.
8* Possible Recommendation to Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners Regarding Demerit Points Assessed for a Conviction(s) of Trapping on Private Property Without Permission – Chairman McNinch – For Possible Action
The Committee will review and discuss current demerit points assessed for a conviction(s) of trapping on private property without permission. The Committee may take action to provide direction to staff or establish findings or recommendations to present to the Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners.
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9 Possible Recommendation to Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners Regarding Demerit Points Assessed for a Conviction(s) of Failure to Visit a Trap(s) Within Required Timeframes – Chairman McNinch – For Possible Action
The Committee will review and discuss current demerit points assessed for a conviction(s) of failure to visit a trap(s) within required timeframes. The Committee may take action to provide direction to staff or establish finding or recommendations to present to the Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners.
10* Definition and/or Interpretation of the Terms “close proximity” and “populated and heavily used areas” as Used in Senate Bill 213 – DAG Newton/Chairman McNinch – For Possible Action
The Committee may take action to define and/or interpret “close proximity” and “populated or heavily used areas” as they relate to Wildlife Management Areas 262, 263, 266, 268 286 and any other wildlife management units within Clark County or portions thereof.
11* Possible Recommendation to Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners Regarding Visitation Frequency for Certain Traps, Snares or Similar Devices Placed in Close Proximity to a Populated or Heavily Used Area – Chairman McNinch – For Possible Action
The Committee may take action to recommend to the Nevada Board of Wildlife Commissioners the frequency at which a person who takes or causes to be taken wild mammals by means of traps, snares or similar devices which do not, or are not designed to cause immediate death to the mammals must visit a trap, snare or similar device in Wildlife Management Areas 262, 263, 266, 268 286 and any other wildlife management units within Clark County or portions thereof. In providing a recommendation the Committee will consider requiring a trap, snare or similar device to be visited more frequently than a trap, snare or similar device which is not placed in close proximity to such an area.
12 Future Committee Meetings and Potential Agenda Items – Chairman McNinch – For Possible Action
The Committee will discuss the date, time and location of the next Committee meeting. The Committee will also review and may take action to set potential agenda items for that meeting.
13 Public Comment Period
Persons wishing to speak on items not on the agenda should complete a speaker’s card and present it to the recording secretary. Public comment will be limited to three minutes. No action can be taken by the Committee at this time; any item requiring Committee action may be scheduled on a future Committee agenda. In addition to this Public Comment Period, Public Comment limited to three minutes per speaker on each agenda action item, but not on reports or informational items.
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• *Support material provided including updates, and posted to the NDOW website (www.ndow.org). Support material for this meeting may be requested from the Joanne Trendler, at (775) 688-1549; and will be available at the meeting. Notice to the Public: Nevada Department of Wildlife receives Federal Aid in Fish and/or Wildlife Restoration. The U.S. Department of the Interior prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, creed, religion, national origin, age, sex, or disability. In accordance with NRS 241.020, this agenda closes three days prior to the meeting date and has been posted at the meeting location, and at the following Department of Wildlife offices: 1100 Valley Road, Reno, NV, 89512; 380 W. “B” Street, Fallon, NV, 89406; 815 E. Fourth Street, Winnemucca, NV 89445; 60 Youth Center, Elko, NV, 89801; 1218 N. Alpha Street, Ely, NV 89301; 744 S. Racetrack Road, Henderson, NV 89015; and 4747 W. Vegas Dr., Las Vegas, NV, 89108.
NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC
Nevada Department of Wildlife receives Federal Aid in Fish and Wildlife Restoration. The U.S. Department of the Interior prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, national origin, age, sex, or disability. Individuals with hearing impairment may contact the Department at 775-688-1500 via a text telephone telecommunications device by first calling the State of Nevada Relay Operator at 1-800-326-6868. Individuals with a disability who are in need of special services should contact Joanne Trendler at the Department at least 24 hours prior to (775) 688-1676.
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PostSubject: Re: WC Meeting . . . Did ANYONE see that coming???   Tue Mar 25, 2014 8:16 pm

I notice they always leave their self's an out ...
NOTE: Items may be taken out of order; items may be combined for consideration by the public body; and Items may be pulled or removed from the agenda at any time.
Let's hope this gets hammered out and not drug out..
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PostSubject: Re: WC Meeting . . . Did ANYONE see that coming???   Tue Mar 25, 2014 9:50 pm

When one goes to one of these meeting how do you show that your pro trapping? Wear my here kitty kitty shirt? ha!

What I mean is Vegas is a big town with lots of different folks. How do I show what I'm there for? Is it only based on the public input periods?
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PostSubject: Re: WC Meeting . . . Did ANYONE see that coming???   Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:44 pm

I am not from NV but will chime in anyway. This is the same thing happening all over the country and what I see in MN currently. The sportsmen are losing the opportunity of any say at all although provide an income to the state to pay for the sport/lifestyle/commercial activity. Minnesota has roundtable/stakeholder meetings and what the bottomline is..."here is what we are proposing, jump on board". The only way things are getting over ridden are by the legislature's that sporting group members have made friendships with that have a lot of power at the state office. SO my suggestion in all that, start sucking up to legislature's as well as these groups have got to start donating to DNR special projects that is why (DU, Delta Waterfowl, etc.) have so much pull. I am sure I am just stating the obvious. I also believe it is time start looking/asking for resignations in the wildlife agencies and making the changes needed.
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