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PostSubject: Taking Bets   Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:00 pm

In preparation for tomorrow, my 2 daughters and I decided to make up some wax dirt. We used the oven. How long after my wife gets home is it going to take one of my girls to tell her that we were cooking dirt in the oven?
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:30 pm

5 minutes tops
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:51 pm

I think I am home free, the kids seem to have forgotten about it. Then again noone has used the oven yet, hope I didnt drop any dirt or wax inside it.
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:38 am

better take a peak when no ones looking to make sure, my traps are starting to freeze, so i think i am going to have to do some baking of my own or hang some snares
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:12 am

Why not make it in the summer using solar power from the sun?
I know it gets hot enough where both of you live to do it and get it done and out of the way.
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:28 pm

Yeah I should have done it that way
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:02 pm

next summer, i have already started constucting a frame to put dirt in, ordered some buckwheat hulls in the mean time
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:58 pm

You can take those buckwheat hulls and shove them!
Tried them 20 years ago and had nothing but diggers and diggers.
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:12 pm

I kind of agree on the buckwheat hulls. If you cant do wax dirt, glycerine would be the next choice
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:52 pm

well i guess, already ordered the stuff, live and learn, thats the only way we get better, i went off a fellow trapper who traps here, he said he uses buckwheat hulls in all his sets all season, had a five gallon bucket of it with him and 9 cats the day we met at the buyer pick up last fall, i will defineatly be waxing some dirt next summer, going for a trash can full or is that over kill
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:29 pm

Then again you are catching cats and I'm not so...........................


The more you can make the better, if you dont use it this year you will have some for next. For me I run around 30 traps for 90 days under normal cat/coyote lines. I only use it where I will get weather. But for me 5 gallons lasts my whole season.
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:37 pm

A 5 gallon pail? A trash can full?
I'll sell ya a couple tons of waxed dirt.
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:42 pm

how much do you make then Dawgz, for say 25 sets that will last from nov to feb, 22 # 3s, 3 #3 dls, thats all my cat traps not counting conis and snares which wouldnt apply anyway,


Utah, you running #3s too, do you blend it with the dirt there or all waxed dirt
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:01 pm

Yes I run #3 Bridgers. If it is a spot that I dont think will receive weather I just use dry dirt. If i see the set getting snow or rain its all wax dirt. I like to use screen as a pan cover, this helps to reduce how much wax dirt I need if I were to use polyfil Id probably use twice as much dirt. I would say 5 gallons is probably just about perfect for 30 sets, unless you are snapping them off quite a bit. For me when cat trapping if it goes off it is because a cat has stepped on the pan. My pan tension keeps smaller animals from firing the trap. And the way I set discourages coyotes most of the time.
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:35 pm

i block all my cat traps hard trying to discourage coyotes,i found out on the second set about too big of a guide stick, guide stick and hair in the trap, no animal i use wax paper under the trap and for a pancover, i am running 3lbs of tension, i have some montana dogless and northwoods # 3s and 3 victor #3 dls, ironically, i have caught both cats in the northwoods, once deer season ends next week i am going to put out alot more sets, to many wantabe helpers that only want to help themselves, getting up everyday at 4 am to run my line before anyone else runs it for me, we are expecting 10 to 14 inches of snow in the next 2 days, any advise for the footholds, i put my coni boxes out, and am going to hang some snares once it quits and i find some tracks on the trails their using, thanks
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:52 pm

Kansas trapping probably a little different than out west. definately try to make your ets freezeproof, maybe walk thru cubbies. We have a lot of cliffs that I can utilize also.
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PostSubject: Re: Taking Bets   Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:46 am

Use a #10 can per set. It just depends on the year and my coyote populations. Usually start using waxed dirt when I see a major weather system coming in and the fall/winter change happening.
I still use waxed dirt under overhangs.
Sometimes you only get one chance at a cat here before the season ends. The cat either doesn't come back in time or someone else nabs him. So always stack the odds to my favor.
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